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Pawbly | 10 years ago
My Dog Is Vomiting And Pooping Blood And Not Eating Her Breakfast (just Breakfast…

My dog is vomiting and pooping blood and not eating her breakfast (just breakfast) and we have already taken her to the vet and she couldn’t find anything and gave us special food but it doesn’t seem to work. What could possibly be wrong?

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  1. Christina Chambreau

    One of the challenges of conventional medicine is a limited number of both diagnostic and treatment options. Depending on what your vet said yesterday (I assume after Dr. Krista’s comment you did call the vet back) this may be a time to seek integrative care. 

    I
    strongly recommend finding an integrative veterinarian with whom to work because they are trained in many different approaches, including using conventional
    drugs only when absolutely needed. Working with one can increase the chance
    that your cherished companion can live a long and healthy life after recovering
    from this current problem. There are good ones and great ones, and a few
    homeopathic veterinarians will consult by phone or email. You can go to the web
    sites for each type of holistic practice and use their referral list to find
    one near to you. If this interests you, please read my article on selecting a holistic vet at my site. Many practitioners are members of only one or two of the
    organizations, so you do need to go to every site to find who is near you:
    1. Wide range of other treatments: http://www.AHVMA.org, American Holistic Veterinary
    Medical Association and http://www.civtedu.org.   
    2. Homeopathic veterinarians (these can often help you by phone if no other
    holistic practitioners are nearby that you like): http://www.theAVH.org and http://www.DrPitcairn.com.

    3. Chiropractic and Osteopathic – http://www.animalchiropractic.org;
    http://equineosteopathy.org/ (they
    treat dogs, too)
    4. TCVM (Acupuncture and Chinese medicine): http://www.IVAS.org,
    http://www.aava.org & http://www.TCVM.com

    5. Herbal
    http://www.VBMA.org

  2. caroline challita

    Hi Amy,

    Im not an expert but i don’t think its normal that they haven’t found what’s wrong. Maybe if she needed more time for test results or more info from your end like if your dog ate something spoiled or if he has diarrhea or something… Contact your vet again and tell her the special dog food isn’t working. If the vet keeps saying “i dont know” I’d always go for a second opinion just as you would with a child. Vomiting and pooping blood are signs that the dog needs medical attention.

    Hope she feels better soon,

    Caroline.

  3. Sharon Martinez

    Laboratory studies need to be done on her if they have not been already. Specifically, a blood panel. One concern that comes to mind is immune-mediated thrombocytopenia which is what my girl, Hannah, died of. You did not mention her age? Hannah was 5-weeks short of 8 years old. Older dogs are more susceptible to immune-mediated diseases – just like humans. However, immune-mediated diseases can affect younger dogs, too. Just like humans. 

    The key signs for immune-mediated thrombocytopenia would be a blood panel that showed low platelet counts because they are being consumed through an immune-mediated process. Low platelets when the count reaches to a certain level – about 50,000 – can lead to spontaneous bleeding in both the dog and the human. Platelets are responsible for our clotting mechanism. i.e., without them, we will freely bleed and bruise (both, internally or externally) without a means of quelling the loss. 

    This will, then, lead to low red blood cell count as the dog or person will not be able to manufacture replacement cells to make up for the loss. The dog will be anemic. Dogs are stoic creatures and they can become pretty darn anemic before they will show us physical signs of their anemic state. They are people-pleasers and will compensate for their anemia. 

    With spontaneous bleeding, a dog can have gastrointestinal bleeding which would lead to bloody  stools. The colon could be bleeding which would produce bright red blood per rectum or the bleeding could be higher up in the stomach or small intestines which would produce black and tarry stools. 

    Bleeding in the stomach can cause nausea and vomiting in the dog and person because blood is a somewhat caustic product. My Hannah was not vomiting but she had no appetite when the illness was clinically apparent. Unfortunately, I lost her because the veterinarian did not bother to carefully look at her laboratory studies that I had ordered. 

  4. amy lucas

    In 5 days she will be 3 years old. And she is a beagle. I think I’ll go back to vet

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Pawbly | 10 years ago
Hi I Have A 5 Mouth Old Puppy German Shepard Cross Husky Boy When There…

Hi I have a 5 mouth old puppy
German Shepard cross husky boy
When there is food left around he turns on us expessiy my 6 year old son he has biten my son hand before over food of course we feed our dog enough food and water

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  1. PK Dennis

    Amy, this is resource guarding and it is a strong instinct in some dogs — and has nothing to do with the amount of food or water the dog receives.  You MUST go find a trainer (or 2, 3, 4).  Yes, start with your vet’s recommendations, but don’t stop there.  Find a local dog club and ask them for recommendations for a trainer that uses “positive reinforcement” techniques only.  Any other kind of training will lead to more problems as the dog gets older.  And the first trainer you try may not be the right trainer for your family, and your dog — so that is why you need to keep on going until you find the trainer that will really work for you, your son, and your dog.

    Be sure your children are involved in the training of the dog.  Find a trainer that will also work with your son.  A 6 year old will not be responsible for training the dog, but he has to understand what not to do, and how to behave with the pup.

    In the mean time – LEAVE NOTHING IN THE DOG’S REACH THAT CAN BE GUARDED!  This means no food left around.  Your son can not walk around with a cookie, a juice box, etc.  No bags of chips left on coffee tables.  If he has nothing to hoard/guard, he won’t be biting.  In all likelihood if you don’t learn how to work with your puppy to reverse this behavior now he will start guarding other things — toys, his bed, his favorite place on the sofa, etc.  And be sure to have him neutered when he turns 6 months old – you will avoid another whole set of problems if you do this.

    It took me 18 months and 4 trainers to finally have a dog that wasn’t biting me or my husband when he disagreed about who should be on the bed at night.  But once we understood each other, I had 12 years with the best dog in the world.  Truly.  

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Jennifer Taylor | 10 years ago
This Puppy Is The Last Of A Large Litter, He Was One Of The Only…

This puppy is the last of a large litter, he was one of the only ones who would keep a clean crate/puppy pen. When the ground froze he discovered the practice of eating poo when he was outside in our fenced in yard. He was neutered a week and a half ago and we thought it would be an opportune time to remedy the poo eating issue since we had to leash walk him. He now refuses to poo outside, we do take him out every 1-2 hours and give a high value treat for pottying outside. He will go in his crate immediately after coming in and will immediately eat it. It almost seems that since I won’t allow him to eat what is in the yard he is just going to make his own snack. I will add that he is a very quick learner, he learned sit and down in an evening. He is very driven by treats and praise. He will urinate outside and looks to me for a treat and praise as he is going. He does not like to be in a messy crate, we know almost the moment it is soiled as he barks/whines and we clean it up. He will only poo in his crate, I do tether housetraining pups to me to eliminate the possibility of accidents (I try to set them up for success) and he has not accidents in the house. He will poo in his crate once I have exited the room where his crate is. I of course can smell the moment he goes, I run in the room and catch him eating it. I have gone as far as letting him out to potty in a pen thinking maybe he does not want to potty with an audience, I watch from a nearby slider but have only “caught” him pooing outside twice in a week and a half, both times I was able to deliver praise and a high value treat as soon as he was done. Lastly his crate is appropriately sized for him, it is a wire folding style crate that is just tall enough for him, he has enough room to lay, stretch out and turn around. This is something I would like to rectify as I know it will be a potential problem in a forever home.

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  1. Anonymous

    Your puppy is just being a ……puppy!  Sometimes the art of pet parenting is like the TV show Survivor–Outwit, Outsmart, Outlast.  

    Be diligent in cleaning up after your puppy poo’s. Do not give him the chance to play with or eat poo. Try placing the puppy on a leash when you take him outside to relieve himself, and do not allow him to inspect his poo. Distract him from by calling him to you, and when he responds appropriately, reward him with a treat and verbal encouragement (go crazy and act like he is the BEST PUPPY ON THE PLANET!) and then take him inside before you go back to pick it up.

    If he hates poo’ing on the leash this is where the “Outlast” portion of the program comes into play. You just have to wander around the yard with him until he does it.  

     

    Some have found that adding meat tenderizer or natural additives to the puppy’s food makes a big difference, since these additives cause the stool to have a particularly unappealing smell that will discourage him from eating it. If you cannot immediately clean up the stool, or if there are some old stool piles in your yard, you can spray it with hot pepper sauce or mouth wash. It is  more effective to just clean up after the puppy.

    A good resource for puppy training is The Complete Idiots Guide to Dog Training.  You can check it out of your local library.  Good luck!!

  2. PK Dennis

    Walking helps the bowels move.  How about taking him on a walk when he comes out of his crate, and after he eats his meals.  The walking will get him eliminating and you will have him on a leash to control his movements while you pick up the poop.  This may work faster/better than turning him out in the yard and waiting, or wandering around the yard while he decides if he is going to poop or not.

    It may also be so exciting to be out and about that he forgets he wants to poop inside where he can snack.

    Good luck!

  3. Jennifer Taylor Post author

    Thank you for the suggestions. I actually had given more info in the details when I posted that I am doing all of these. This isn’t a typical housebreaking issue but more of a compulsion to eat stool. The issue of eliminating in his crate began AFTER I restricted him from eating poo outside. In the past year alone I have fostered 30 puppies, all were well on their way to being housetrained when they were adopted. As a board member of a local rescue and seasoned foster I provide support to adoptive families on the subject of house training. My approach to house training is to set a dog up for success eliminating the possibility for accidents and rewarding appropriate elimination. I vary my method according to the dog as not all dogs respond to the same method. I have had great success with training dogs who have come from horrendous living conditions, spending months in their own waste.

  4. Anonymous

    There are products out there to make the poo taste bad and most of them (I believe) have the main ingredient of MSG, which is the same thing as meat tenderizer. Dr. Foster and Smith has a product called Dis-Taste, but I’m sure there are others. If a dose of MSG isn’t harmful, give it a shot!

  5. Brian Downie

    Hello Jennifer. My Great Dane did this and then my Golden Retriever starting doing it. Learned behavior? I agree with Dr. Mag’s suggestions. I taught the leave it command and do not leave them unattended when it is ‘potty time.’ I tried to read a lot of remedies for this issue. What I found was mixed reviews on the food additives to deter the poop eating. I read about nutritional deficits and remedies. What I read and think was going on with mine was most dogs like to keep their play and living areas clean. Sometimes when a mother has a new litter, she will demonstrate this issue to keep the area clean for her pups. I too have a fenced in back yard which doubles as their play area when I cannot take them out in the unfenced area. I taught the leave it command and keep the area clean of feces. Somehow, imo, your dog has associated the crate pooping as safe but then cleans the area since it is his ‘safe spot.’ It took a few weeks to dissuade my dogs from doing this. Still, if I am not diligent about watching over them and keeping the area clean, the issue will persist. Your reaction whether positive or negative outside, may be influencing what the dog believes to be ok so he returns to his ‘safe’ area and only poops when he thinks you are not paying attention (because of your reactoin?) then gobbles the tasty morsel up for maybe cleaning? I found with my dogs when there is an unwanted behavior/issue the best reaction is no reaction. Remember, running to the crate to stop him may be interpreted as him doing something wrong so he tries to ‘destroy’ the evidence. It is learned somehow.

    An anecdote. My very sensitive Great Dane when she was young had what I perceived to be separation anxiety when my wife and I would leave. We would come home and rugs would be chewed, pillows destroyed, etc. I would come in and immediately react, negatively. I posted on here and in short, the response was it was my fault. I was at first offended thinking I was a great doggy parent, but then I thought about it. My Dane associated our leaving with her getting negatively in trouble when we came home. This caused her great stress and her acting out was a reaction to fear and anticipation. I quickly changed my behavior. When I came home I would simply clean up what was destroyed and before leaving I would remove anything I could. I did not react. She would cower in her chair while I cleaned. I simply went about my business without noticing her. When I was done, once she came out of her chair, I acknowledged her and said hello. It was my responsibility to break the association, not the behavior. It took a little time, but we became successful. Now when we leave, we make it no big deal. When we come home, it is not a big deal. She isn’t afraid of us leaving and her ‘just’ getting in trouble when we come home. We no longer come home to destroyed items or a fearful dog. I personified her hiding in her chair with her knowing she did something wrong. Nope. I taught her that when we come home I would yell at her so she anticipated that with great stress and fear.

    Maybe, without knowing it, we teach our dogs to do negative things. The hard part is realizing and accepting it then correcting OUR behavior.

    Good Luck!!!

  6. Brian Downie

    ” The issue of eliminating in his crate began AFTER I restricted him from eating poo outside.” Maybe he learned it is not ok to poop outside?

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Pawbly | 10 years ago
He Examined Her & Showed Me Her Inflamed Upper Back Gums And Three Teeths That…

He examined her & showed me her inflamed upper back gums and three teeths that he advised should be removed. Blood tests, etc where taken and antibotic meds. subscribed to reduce swelling. If Blood works normal then extractions is estimated at $480.00. A fair cost amount? My husband doesn’t think so. I think it’s.

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  1. PK Dennis

    The price depends on the vet and the area in which you live.  My regular vet does dental starting at $600.00 plus $99 for each tooth that he removes.  I don’t use him for this service.

    There is a vet about an hour away from me that charges $150 for any dental work, doesn’t matter how many teeth come out.  I use her for my fosters when they have teeth issues.  But since I never asked – this may be a special price for fosters (my own pets get their teeth brushed and don’t have dental issues).

    I have read that there are clinics in some places (Virginia for example) that specialize in surgery and offer dental work for prices inline with the $150.00.  Look around, and do some calling to find out the standard price range where you live.

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Pawbly | 10 years ago
My Dog Has Diarrhoea She Has Had It A Few Days But She Seems Happy…

my dog has diarrhoea she has had it a few days but she seems happy enough i have just gave a dose of pro-kolin should i feed her

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Pat Wells | 10 years ago
My Kitten Ate A Out A 8″ Piece Of Silk Ribbon. What Should I Do?

My kitten ate a out a 8″ piece of silk ribbon. What should I do?

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  1. Pat Wells Post author

    Melvin is pooping, eating, and acting normal. Still don’t see and pieces of the ribbon in his poop, but his latest poop was glossy. How long wil it take before he will be in the clear?

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Pawbly | 10 years ago
I Have A 10 Month Old Chihuahua That Was Recently Diagnosed With An Autoimmune Disease…

I have a 10 month old chihuahua that was recently diagnosed with an autoimmune disease. I have a hard time getting her to eat, so I was wanting to try a vitamin or supplement. Any suggestions?

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  1. Jana

    Which autoimmune disease is it? What treatment is she on? What food are you offering?

  2. andrea Lee Roundfield

    When my pets, recently my kitty, have little to no desire for food e.g. prescribed food, we will try a highly favored broth (from chicken soup or the oil from tuna.

  3. tammy kleckner

    I am not sure but when it comes to bunnies I used critical care 

  4. Christina Chambreau

    Injectable Vitamin B by your veterinarian (and they can show you how to give it) is a safe and often effective appetite stimulant. 

    Wysong makes a supplement that often tempts animals to eat that is really a total food source with many vitamins and probiotics – PDG (Pre-Di-Gest) powder. 

    If you have a holistic pet store within driving range, visit them for healthy treats and vitamins.

    If you need to order on-line, try the Canine Plus by VetriScience (my site has the link). 

    The best way to get dogs to eat is to feed them real food.  You can try almost any people food, especially proteins like chicken, fish, beef, eggs, cottage cheese. Vegetables, cooked or raw, are good. For nutrition they need to be pureed in the blender, but as a treat they can be any size. right now do not worry about balance, just getting her started eating again. Begin to read articles (my site, Dr. Becker at Mercola, breeders who have fed raw for generations, Dr. hofve for a few) about feeding a fresh food diet (just as we eat a variety of fresh food, hopefully sustainably or organically raised) to improve health in general. 

    Since you did not tell us what type of autoimmune your pup has, there may be blisters in the mouth that are preventing eating, so then the above suggestions would be different. 

    Second, I
    strongly recommend finding an integrative veterinarian with whom to work. This
    is a person trained in many different approaches, including using conventional
    drugs only when absolutely needed. Working with one can increase the chance
    that your cherished companion can live a long and healthy life after recovering
    from this current problem (with holistic approaches most auto immune diseases can be completely resolved, but if not, there are dozens of ways to help her stay happy and fairly healthy). There are good ones and great ones, and a few
    homeopathic veterinarians will consult by phone or email. You can go to the web
    sites for each type of holistic practice and use their referral list to find
    one near to you. Many practitioners are members of only one or two of the
    organizations, so you do need to go to every site to find who is near you:


    1. Wide range of other treatments: http://www.AHVMA.org, American Holistic Veterinary
    Medical Association and http://www.civtedu.org.   
    2. Homeopathic veterinarians (these can often help you by phone if no other
    holistic practitioners are nearby that you like): http://www.theAVH.org and http://www.DrPitcairn.com.

    3. Chiropractic and Osteopathic – http://www.animalchiropractic.org;
    http://equineosteopathy.org/ (they
    treat dogs, too)
    4. TCVM (Acupuncture and Chinese medicine): http://www.IVAS.org,
    http://www.aava.org & http://www.TCVM.com

    5. Herbal
    http://www.VBMA.org

    Since you do not list your state, I cannot be more specific, but you can look at the links page on my site or email me for help. My article on selecting and working with a holistic veterinarian will help you choose one. 

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Pawbly | 10 years ago
Three Weeks Ago We Transitioned Our Siberian Husky From Proplan To Blue Wilderness And Since…

Three weeks ago we transitioned our Siberian husky from proplan to blue wilderness and since Monday he has had loose stool and last night he had diarrhea twice and the second time was real bad. What should I do to calm him belly down?

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  1. Cheryl Rosso

    We changed from proplan to blue because we heard good things and we wanted to feed our 3 dogs better but now maybe not such a good idea.

  2. Anonymous

    i have to be honest…i used to feed blue wilderness.  i LOVED that food…until they changed the formulation.  it caused serious problems for my IBD-sufferer cat, so i stopped feeding it.  it caused him uncontrollable diarrhea.  my other cat also starting having bouts of diarrhea after the change, so i switched to Wellness.

    maybe try Wellness CORE?  we have had quite a bit of success with it.

  3. Cheryl Rosso

    Laura- that’s what one of my friends said too that they changed the ingredients. My husky could not stomach the blue so now we’re dealing with diarrhea bland diet and reintroduce what we use to feed them.

  4. Anonymous

    i’d say it’s been about 3 years? basically, when they started advertising heavily on TV and in the papers, it was immediately after they were purchased by another company. that’s when they changed the recipe…and it’s a shame, because it used to be a great food.

    other options i’d consider: Horizon Pulsar, Costco’s Kirkland grain-free, Merrick (this didn’t work well for my dog but it does for many others, and it’s very affordable), Acana and Orijen (though these may be too rich…tread lightly here). if you hit Pet Valu up in Perry Hall, they should have free sample bags of some things to try.

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Pawbly | 10 years ago
We Got An Extremely Skiddish Dog About 3 Months Ago. (Still Skiddish) Ran Away 5…

We got an extremely skiddish dog about 3 months ago. (Still skiddish) ran away 5 days ago, hangs around our house but won’t come when called, and hasn’t eaten since he ran. What do we do???

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  1. PK Dennis

    Since the safety of the dog is always an issue I would look into a live trap — perhaps your local SPCA could help you with locating one you could borrow to capture the dog.  Yes, it will startle the dog when it closes, but you can decide if the danger of being hit by a car is greater than the bag of a wire door shutting him in the crate-like cage.

    Another alternative is to treat him as one would a stray that you are trying to win over.  When you see him, put down some food for him and go back into the house.  Do this for a few days.  Once he is coming for the food, put it down and stay outside where he can see you while he eats.  Every day move a little closer.  DO NOT MAKE EYE CONTACT with him at any point!  You may hum, talk softly to him, make little puppy noises, but don’t demand his attention,  nor try to grab him.  Stay low (sit on the ground if possible) while in his sight, and if you can keep turned away from him that is much better (offer him your side or back).   Eventually, you will be sitting beside the food dish when he comes to eat and will be able to touch him.  When you get to this point don’t lunge for a collar, just rub his ears or back until you can slowly slip a looped leash over his head and then get him to a secure area.
    If you go this second route, you might try getting him to come into a fenced area, or a garage (through a small door, that can be closed by a helper).  Have a helper close the gate or door once the dog is eating and don’t try to lure him into a garage though the garage doors and try to close them while he is in the garage, any dog will be fast enough to get out as those big doors close, and he will trust you even less.
    Good luck!
    PK
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amanda Mills | 10 years ago
My Dog Has Been Throwing Up All Day. It Started With His Food. It Is…

My dog has been throwing up all day. It started with his food. It is now getting foamy. He is acting normal and has had a solid bowel movement

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  1. Jana

    Amanda, while a dog throwing up once or twice and acting normally otherwise can be written off as a stomach upset that will go away, throwing up all day is a different story. If it was my dog, I’d take him in.

  2. Amlee Roundfield

    Me too – all day is no good

  3. Gio Pinto

    I have two chiwawas and it happens it will stop over the night it happens all the time to my dogs your dog will be fine